11 NovMore On Baseball, This Time With Feminism

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If I was the sort of blogger who wrote things on a timely basis, this post would have been up during the ALCS when I first thought about it, or at least during the World Series, when it was topical, or shortly thereafter, when people were still buzzing. But I’ve been busy with work, that novel I’m perpetually working on, and meeting some of my favorite authors. And I’m not that sort of blogger. Alas.

So. Baseball. And feminism!

The school where my sister teaches had a Yankees-themed dress-down day when the Yankees won the World series.1 She stopped at a Modell’s store to pick up a jersey to wear, and found only men’s larges and extra larges — and a very few women’s shirts, all in pastel pink.

I don’t actually know any women who want pink Yankees gear. The blue pinstripes? Pretty iconic, is all I’m saying. Rachel asked a salesman if there was anything else for women, and he said no. They never bother to order jerseys for women. Imagine that.2

I went to see a game with my friend B this summer. B is a much harder-core fan than I am, actually, and when we were talking about how we got into watching, she said I was one of the only women she knows who watches baseball like she does — or, in other words, who watches baseball like a dude.

But, she said, it was nice to see a game with another woman because she didn’t have to avoid talking about how Derek Jeter is wicked hot.

Yup. That’s my experience, too. Because that’s the thing about talking baseball with dudes. There’s an awesome feeling of being in-group, and what’s more fun than talking about something you love with people who are similarly passionate? But for me and B both — and, I suspect, a lot of other female sports fans — there’s an unspoken knowledge that commenting on a player’s attractiveness means you will be out-grouped instantly. Your opinions will be taken less seriously, and instead of a real fan, you’ll be seen as one of those women, who only watches the game for eye candy or because your boyfriend makes you.3

The thing is, this is not something that happens in reverse. For some reason, a sports-centric magazine with a primarily male audience puts out a yearly edition that’s devoted to women in swimsuits, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a magazine about sports. 4 Movie reviews nearly always comment on the female lead’s attractiveness, but even when written by men, the reviews aren’t discounted out of hand, on the grounds that people assume men only watch movies to stare at the women. And often, female athletes are uber-sexualized, and their looks are considered at least as important as their skills.5

So maybe I do watch baseball like a dude, because apparently even sitting on my couch watching the YES Network is a gendered activity. (Sigh.) But I also watch baseball like a chick. Because, whether you believe in Derek Jeter’s intangibles or Derek Jeter’s actual defensive statistics?

Dude is wicked hot.

  1. Still not tired of typing that. :D :D :D
  2. She scowled at him, bought a men’s large, and demanded I blog about it.
  3. FYI: this is not something than any of the men I know do on purpose. It’s just a part of the same culture that, you know, devalues things girls like. Stupid culture.
  4. Or at least that’s what’s on the cover, I have no idea what the actual content is.
  5. I googled to find examples of this, and there are plenty out there, but I was so grossed out and annoyed that I decided not to link to any of them after all.
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3 Responses to “More On Baseball, This Time With Feminism”

  1. Hanachan says:

    I agree with this so much. Well, except for the “Jeter is hot” part, but then again I’m a Red Sox and Mets fan who is obsessed with the other NY shortstop, so….yeah. Anyways, I always get this too. I’m lucky that one of my best friends is even more of a baseball fan than I am, so I always have someone to watch the games with who understands me.

    By the way, I’ve noticed that because of “machoness” possibly, guys talk about sports in a much more serious way, while the female fans are more likely to talk about both stats and really silly stuff. Possibly this is because we aren’t expected to be sports fans, there are no expectation on how we should act as sports fans? We aren’t trying to prove how “manly” we are, so maybe we can be freer?

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  2. lilacsigil says:

    But I also watch baseball like a chick.

    No, you watch baseball like a straight chick. I’ll be over there watching women’s (field) hockey, thanks!

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  3. Rebecca says:

    @lilacsigil: You’re right. Thank you for the privilege check.

    @Hanachan: I can definitely see that. (It may depend on the people in question, I think, but so does everything I wrote about to some extent.)

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