14 SepTaylor Swift, Kanye West, Pop Music, and Respect

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So I watched the VMAs last night, and I’m still pissed at Kanye West.1 I’ve been thinking about why I’m so upset all day, because until last night, I could not have named one Taylor Swift song. She’s been remarkably off my radar, considering I contribute to a blog about tween- and teen stars; I knew her name, knew what she looked like, but her music had made zero impression on me at all. So it isn’t even like I’m offended because I love her or her music particularly; I’m basically entirely indifferent to her. And obviously it was a totally dick move, wrong just because it was wrong, and it would have been wrong regardless of who he interrupted.

But it really, really bothered me. I think I finally got a bead on why: because female performers — especially young, female, pop performers — really don’t get much respect.

I think part of that is the genre generally. Pop music tends to be dismissed out of hand by many, many people, as “just” pop. Growing up loving boybands and Britney Spears, I’ve heard time and time again that pop stars just don’t have musical credibility, because they often don’t write the songs they perform. That has always struck me as utter bullshit because here’s the thing: writing music and singing are different skillsets. They are related, in that they both have to do with music, and one is often found in tandem with the other, but they don’t have to be. Honestly, when I’m listening to music, I rarely care who wrote it. I’m listening for performance; when I’m at a concert, I’m there to be entertained. I respect the people who do the writing and the producing, but they aren’t the ones who make the musical experience for me. Basically, what I want from a singer is that she be a good singer.2

And even were that not true, I think it’s important to remember that female entertainers are least likely to be given the creative freedom to do what they want. Another reason it’s easy to dismiss pop (and especially women in pop) is because it’s all about crafted image (though… what isn’t?). But, as Kelly Clarkson called out, the industry is a boy’s club, and people didn’t want to listen to her because she was young and female. If these young, female stars lack credibility because their images are so carefully crafted… Well, who is doing the crafting? And would these young women be given a chance to put themselves out there and make music at all if they didn’t submit to that image crafting?3

And of course, there’s the fact that pop music is fun. It’s not generally designed to be moving, or deep, or even Great Art. Pop is meant to be…popular. It is entertainment that does not strive to be anything but entertainment. And fun is often seen as frivolous.

So thought number one: pop musicians, especially young, female ones, don’t get much respect because they — and their genre — are seen as lacking credibility, even though that that’s an unfair statement.

But to go further with that, you know why else pop music is dismissed so easily? How about this one: because girls like it.

Seriously. This is not a terribly original thought, but it’s always run true to me. Speaking in broad cultural terms, things that guys value are considered normal; things that women value are seen as frivolous. To talk in clichés: sports vs. shopping. It’s not that every single person is accepting of guys who just want to watch the game (or get more fanatic about it); it’s that culturally, that’s considered normal. On the other hand, women shopping is a punchline, seen as silly. LOL ladies spending money on things like clothing and — hee hee hee — shoes! The attitude is derisive. Projects that are by women, for women, are written off as chick flicks (and chick lit). Women enjoying things by and for themselves is not particularly welcomed.4 Things by and for women are not particularly valued.

So you’ve got young female artists in a genre that isn’t considered credible, who are primarily popular with other young, female people and thus their art (even if it is not High Art) is easily dismissed. That upsets me. And even though I have just about no opinion on Taylor Swift, that moment at the VMAs pretty much encapsulated that mindset: young women and the things they value aren’t important, so an adult man felt it was entirely okay to interrupt a young woman who was receiving recognition for being good at what she does.

Obviously, there is a lot more to talk about than that, like how it also stole Beyonce’s moment and put her into the position of having to clean up someone else’s mess; whether or not people would be this outraged if a white man had done what Kanye did, or if it had been done to a black woman instead; and why MTV has an awards show to recognize outstanding music videos when it does not, in fact, play music videos.5 But that’s why the incident got to me, in particular. I love pop, and I love teen stars, and I absolutely hate how culturally disrespected they are.

One final note: I’ve had a couple of discussions today about how this is all actually good for Swift, because this has gotten her major exposure and made her a national figure of sympathy. I do get that, but I also think it’s important not lose track of the fact that Swift was getting national exposure and recognition for being good at her job, and that was ruined for her. I have no idea whether she’d trade in that moment of joy and respect for a larger moment of controversy and exposure — but I know I’d rather see a young woman get the respect she has earned than see her get humiliated. And I hope that she would feel the same.

  1. The short version, for those who don’t follow such things: Taylor Swift, a 19-year-old country (/pop crossover) singer-songwriter won the award for Best Female Video — her first VMA, a pretty big deal — Kanye West came up on stage, univited, took the mic out of her hand, and told the world that he thought Beyonce’s Single Ladies video was one of the “best videos of all time.” She was visibly crushed (reportedly cried backstage afterwards). Beyonce herself looked utterly horrified, and when she went up to accept her award for Best Video, she had Taylor come out and give her speech again.
  2. Or at the very least, an entertaining one.
  3. Obviously some don’t, and some escape it; but it isn’t a coincidence that when Britney was at her biggest, most other young, female singers went blond and bare-midriffed.
  4. Example from the nerd culture with which I am most familiar: witness the ZOMG Twilight fans at Comic Con! A space basically carved out for people to be extremely enthusiastic about the thing they love is being invaded by… Girls who are excited and enthusiastic about a thing they love! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
  5. Zing!
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5 Responses to “Taylor Swift, Kanye West, Pop Music, and Respect”

  1. Hanachan says:

    I agree with all this. I have seen many adult men say disgusting things cheering on Kanye because Taylor Swift is “ruining country music.” Maybe they don’t get why it’s awful because they’ve never been a teenage girl? I find the concept of adult men cheering on another adult man humiliating a teenage girl disgusting and creepy.

    I’ve been a huge Kanye fan for awhile, so on his behalf, I will point out that he apologized in a nice way. Still doesn’t make what he did any less wrong, but at least he acknowledged he fucked up. Apology is here- http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/?em3106=239462_-1__0_~0_-1_9_2009_0_0&em3298=&em3282=&em3281=&em3161=

    One note about the prefabricated pop star thing- Taylor Swift actually does write her music and lyrics, they are often mocked because they are written for young girls.

    I made a similar post in my LJ, but this is much more eloquent, so I’m going to link to this! This is a great post!

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  2. Jennifer says:

    While I agree with everything you’ve said here — that young women don’t get respect in the music industry, that pop music is undervalued, etc. — I also think it’s important not to forget that Kanye’s outburst was done with the intent of giving awards and credit to a female artist making pop music (hip hop pop, yes, but still definitely pop) with a very female-focused (and female-empowering) song. What he did is, as you said, UNDOUBTEDLY wrong, and the facts you point out are absolutely correct; I’m just not sure he, and his outburst, are really connected to the ills you’re pointing out.

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  3. Hanachan says:

    I was more talking about the fools who are defending Kanye, not Kanye himself (sorry if I wasn’t clear- this is why posting late at night is a bad idea! xD). He was just a drunk guy and was bound to stir up trouble up in someway. I’m sorry, I was very angered after reading a bunch of pro-Kanye posts and took it out on your comments section.

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  4. Pen says:

    Hanachan, unfortunately an apology is NOT an apology when in the very middle of it you defend your boorish actions “Beyonce’s video was the best of this decade” and “Everybody wanna boo me but I’m a fan of real pop culture.”

    He seems to almost insinuating that Taylor doesn’t even belong in an awards show dedicated to pop culture.

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